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		<title>A Visit to the Philippine Embassy (Part 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just came back from my visit to the Philippine Embassy in The Hague. It takes a bit of time to get to Den Haag from Amsterdam due to the traffic. The distance from Amsterdam to The Hague is probably like Makati to Sta. Rosa, Laguna or even Tagaytay. When I arrived there, there was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came back from my visit to the Philippine Embassy in The Hague.  It takes a bit of time to get to Den Haag from Amsterdam due to the traffic.  The distance from Amsterdam to The Hague is probably like Makati to Sta. Rosa, Laguna or even Tagaytay.</p>
<p>When I arrived there, there was only 1 other person being served.  It was not a busy day.  However, when I presented my documents for the Registration of our Marriage, which is a prerequisite to all our applications, she told me that it needs to be legalized by the Department of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands.  I didn&#8217;t realize it was necessary to go there because this one had a stamp already from the Municipality.   Oh, well, after looking at MrC&#8217;s immigration paper requirements we realize we need lots of documents legalized there anyways: including his medical examination results and police report!</p>
<p>Another blooper I had also is the size of my photo.  The lady told me that I could also apply for a passport at the same time as the citizenship retention however my photo sizes were wrong.  And so we went home without any applications filed.  At least we now know for sure that our next visit to Den Haag will be spent in the Foreign Affairs Ministry right before I even apply for Dual Citizenship.</p>
<p>Oh and by the way, while I was in the WC I was hearing a man shouting like he was angry.  Turns out MrC saw that it was the Dutch husband of the other lady that just came in.  He was really making a fool of himself shouting insults to the Embassy lady.  Gosh, so rude! I feel bad for the Filipina wife who couldn&#8217;t shut him up. <img src='http://www.backtothephilippines.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyways, that was my visit to the Philippine Embassy.</p>
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		<title>More on Dual Nationality for Filipino &#8211; Americans</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading forums and reading the Advice about Possible Loss of U.S. Citizenship and Dual Nationality these are the main implications of retention of Philippine Citizenship: taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA) is a potential cause of loss of citizenship [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading forums and reading the  <a href="http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html">Advice about Possible Loss of U.S. Citizenship and Dual Nationality</a>  these are the main implications of retention of Philippine Citizenship:</p>
<ul>
<li>taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions (Sec. 349 (a) (2)                               INA)  is a potential cause of  loss of citizenship if they perform certain <em>specified</em> acts <em>voluntarily</em> and <em>with the intention to relinquish</em> U.S. citizenship.</li>
<li>when renewing or applying for a US passport, before you sign the <a href="http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79960.pdf">form</a> , since in the Acts or Conditions list this will apply to you, you need to line out the part that says &#8220;taken an oath or made an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state&#8221;, and you must provide a supplementary explanatory statement under oath or affirmation by the applicant that you do not wish to relinquish your U.S. citizenship.</li>
<li>you might have trouble running for public office in either countries or obtaining special security clearances</li>
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<p>Disclaimer:  I am not a licensed attorney, all information here is gathered only from reading official websites.  Please consult your immigration lawyer or consulate for confirmation about these issues before you decide on any course of action.</p>
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		<title>A Visit to the Philippine Embassy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, I decided to do finally complete my paperwork errands for my Mom by going to the Philippine Embassy in Den Haag. And at the same time, I figured, I could inquire more about the visa options that we have in line with our plans to come back to the Philippines and stay long-term. One [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yesterday, I decided to do finally complete my paperwork errands for my Mom by going to the <a href="http://www.philembassy.nl/">Philippine Embassy in Den Haag</a>.  And at the same time, I figured, I could inquire more about the <a href="http://backtothephilippines.blogspot.com/2008/02/visa-options-for-longer-stay-in.html">visa options</a> that we have in line with our <a href="http://backtothephilippines.blogspot.com/2008/02/plan-in-stages.html">plans to come back to the Philippines</a> and stay long-term.<br />
<a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_GS8gPtoNUE0/R7_KzCCIdgI/AAAAAAAAAFo/FSXePlmoTJ4/s1600-h/philembassy1.jpg"><img src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_GS8gPtoNUE0/R7_KzCCIdgI/AAAAAAAAAFo/FSXePlmoTJ4/s320/philembassy1.jpg" border="0" /></a>    One thing I noticed about their office is that it is so much better than the one in New York City where there are long lines, noisy crowds, steel bars and glass windows and irritated government workers.  Instead, I was greeted by a couple of relaxed women and a nice open office environment.  During my visit, there was also a Dutch couple applying for a tourist visa.   Basically, the nice lady told me that she strongly advise me to just apply for <a href="http://www.philembassy.nl/default.asp?iId=JLDHG">reacquisition of my citizenship</a> which is by far the simplest for both of us.  I told her that my main concerns is the length of time to process it and how it would affect my citizenship status in the US.  I found out that it only takes 5 days to process my application for citizenship retention after I submit all the necessary paperwork and also 5 days to process my husband&#8217;s non-quota immigration application as well.   The good thing about this also is that if we try to setup a business there we could solve the ownership issue easily.   She told me that Philippine law recognizes Dual Citizenship.  Later that day I found my answers from the <a href="http://www.philippineconsulate-sf.org/dualcitizenship_faq.htm">website of the San Francisco consulate</a>.</p>
<p>Here is what it says in the website:</p>
<blockquote></blockquote>
<p>Will                    taking the Oath endanger U.S. citizenship?</p>
<blockquote><p>                   No. According to a study prepared by the National Federation                    of Filipino American Associations (NAFFAA), a person will not                    lose his/her U.S. citizenship by merely pledging allegiance                    to another county. Such act can result in loss of U.S. citizenship                    only if done with an intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship.                    Since applicants for dual citizenship under this law generally                    do so with every intention to keep their U.S. citizenship and                    enjoy the benefits of citizenship in both countries, they are                    in no way intending to relinquish their U.S. citizenship.</p>
<p>Moreover, NAFFAA assures that American citizenship is not easily                    lost and is protected under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution,                    which states that “all persons born or naturalized in                    the U.S. are citizens of the U.S. and of the state wherein they                    reside. No state shall.. deprive any person of life, liberty                    or property without due process of law.”</p>
<p>U.S. government sources recognize that “dual nationality”                    or “dual citizenship” can and does occur as a matter                    of fact, when the laws of the U.S. and another country simultaneously                    recognize an individual as their citizen.</p></blockquote>
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